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PostSubject: Demonic Lords   Demonic Lords EmptyWed Jun 01, 2022 2:02 am

Polkdot stresses that many of the terms he uses are for lack of a better word and should not be comprehended with preconceived notions associated with them.
Hell Though not a pleasant place. This is not fire and brimstone kind of hell. Hell is used as a general term to describe the desert plain where the demonic lords live.
"Hells" is used to mean the city state/temple like areas in which each demonic lord lives. IE: The hells (their houses) exist in hell, the desert.

Demonic Lords/Demons/Lords Is used to refer to a unique set of creatures/beings. Not to be associated as "devils" in the conventional sense. Demonic Lords were the first living creations. Each one is unique in makeup and appearance. By human standards they may be god like but they are simply fallible beings with different personalities and desires.

Titles:
Demonic Lord of ____ or Lord of _____
The demonic lords have been largely prescribed arbitrary adjectives to claim an attribute over which they rule. These are subjective and though used to refer to one, does not mean that thing is something they control.

Examples:
Dar-con-off - Demonic Lord of Creation - In a sense is true since he built Hell and the Hells but he does not possess anything inherent to creating. he simply took the task upon himself to do it.
Has-Mit-Tal Demonic Lord of Blood - Somehow he got associated with vampirism. He is more akin to a keeper of knowledge or mazes, as he collects both, but for whatever reason got worshipped by people who tended to worship him by drinking blood.
Astroth - Demonic Lord Of Death - Was one of the very first demonic lords, a bit of a prototype and didn't know how to do much else but kill things. Questionable if he is really even a demonic lord or closer to being a "smart animal." He has no particular rule or control over death though.
Nosfentdor - Demonic Lord of Council - Prior to heading up the demonic council he was also known as the demonic lord of chaos, and associated, with bargaining. He was once also referred to as the demonic lord of the voidal plains, but mostly because he was trapped so it was a bit of a mockery.

In other words don't take their titles with a grain of salt. Their titles were assigned to them by others. It would be like thinking the constellation the big dipper cares about ladles.

Polkdot places demons into 3 general categories:
1. Demonic Lords
2. Advisory Demons
3. Lesser Demons

The distinction is fairly arbitrary in a way and does not reflect "power."
Demonic Lords are set apart as having their own kingdoms. Exactly how it was decided who these would be is unknown.
Advisory Demons live in these kingdoms and serve the Lords in some capacity and are generally given to be able to roam and operate relatively independently.
Lesser Demons simply have less status and tend to be locked down to specific jobs, tasks, and locations.

The Demonic Council
At some point the Demonic Lords, upon entering hell, separated themselves and formed an alliance. This alliance became the Council and tends to "rule" hell. Though they also hold no particular rule over the non council demons.
The council is ruled by Nosfentdor but this does not imply he is most powerful.
How he came to head the council is unknown. Though he is considered quite cruel, concerning the council he is rather generous which no doubt helps him hold his position. He takes no more spiritual energy than he requires and allows the others to take any excess. In times of shortages he is the first to go with less and though he probably enjoys it, he has never called on the others to place themselves at risk, but opts to do things himself.

The Council
Nosfentdor - Head of the council
Skeletal in appearance with large leathery wings. His hands nearly touch the ground. Each hand as four fingers with long claws on the tips. His legs separate at his knees into four legs of jagged bone. His size varies typically from eight to fifteen feet in height, though he has been seen reaching nearly 40 feet.
He is served by Dar-con-off and Astroth who do not have official seats on the council but tend to accompany him.


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PostSubject: Re: Demonic Lords   Demonic Lords EmptySat Jun 04, 2022 2:45 am

The Council

1. Nosfentdor - Head of the council
Skeletal in appearance with large leathery wings. His hands nearly touch the ground. Each hand as four fingers with long claws on the tips. His legs separate at his knees into four legs of jagged bone. His size varies typically from eight to fifteen feet in height, though he has been seen reaching nearly 40 feet.
He is served by Dar-con-off and Astroth who do not have official seats on the council but tend to accompany him.

2. Aosh-mo-nagith
Demonic Lord of Names

3. Drornin
Demonic Lord of Dawns

4. Molvag
Demonic Lord of the Lost

5. Onaz
Demonic Lord of Chance

6. Aglomooth
Demonic Lord of nothing.
Not to be confused with having a rule over nothing, Algomooth literally is not associated with any particular quality, thing, task, or accomplishment. Aglomooth is known to have demolished his hell upon seeing it for the first time for it being too grand. When he learned he could not dispose of the rubble he erected it into a single grand column. He then dismantled the column and placed the stones on top of his slaves. Aglomooth keeps no advisors or help and his hell is said to appear to be smashed boulders strewn around a vast landscape with the arms and legs of slaves sticking out from under them as they are forever crushed.
It is also said his hell has a single drop of water on top of one of the boulders which he checks on everyday.
Aglomooth is known to not respond well to flattery.

7. Thigraral
Thigraral is thought to have earned his place on the council when he somehow traversed the sands of hell and arrived at Nosfender's palace. (Before Nosfendor had returned from exile.) Darconoff so was impressed he offered him a seat on the council.
Darconoff then sent Astroth to The Bowl to study it and learn. When Astroth returned Darconoff patched the exploit Thigraral has used.
(This does not match to other history as Astroth is thought to have been created and born in The Bowl as part of the test. Though one could resolve the two by considering a time looping paradox.)

8. Monnaur

9. Agthozethag
Demonic Lord of Lords
Despite Astroth being thought of as the first Demonic Lord, Agthozethag is associated with being the oldest. Agthozethag is also thought to have invented the stone alter as he is thought to have been the first to break a rock upon which he placed "his favorite things."
Agthozethag seems to bear no particular sway over the council, and is often the last to vote on matters, and when he does he often abstains or votes with the majority. He is sometimes referred to as the Demonic Lord of indifference.

10. Vozgath

11. Uzad
Demonic Lord of Thievery
Uzad is thought to have replaced Kor Ma Ka on the council after Kor Ma Ka shared Darconoff's secrets with his followers the Mourn. Darconoff is thought to have given the 3rd Tril to Kor Ma Ka who then gave it to The Mourn for their loyal service, who then attempted to use it to bring Kor Ma Ka back into the world.
Uzad is thought to have learned this and told Darconoff. Uzad then guided a human to steal the book back after Onaz had failed to wipe the Mourn out with "soulless" warriors he created.
Uzad's plan is thought to have been at least partially successful with the human supposedly having stolen the book and then hiding in a tomb of one of Onaz's warriors. The human is thought to have revived a warrior who had been turned to stone, who then went back to fighting the Mourn, which bought the human time to escape but he nor the book were ever seen again.
This is thought to have been the catalyst to the second great war as the Mourn crossed into New Dolben in search of it and clashed with the humans that had settled there.

12. Molra-ethas
Demonic Lord of Exchange
Due to his size and form Molra-ethas has never fully attended a meeting. Instead only a portion of him is present. Molra-ethas is an amorphous collection of ever changing independent forms working as a collective. By the time Molra-ethas has truly learned of something the situation has changed.
It is said Molra-ethas thrashed and pulverized the entire Dolben coastline from rocky cliffs into sandy shores before he learned of the truce and to retreat during the demonic wars.
Molra-ethas is thought to hold a grudge against Darconoff after Darconoff "tricked" him into devouring himself, which he didn't learn he was doing until having eaten nearly 1/3rd of himself.
Darconoff has referred to Molra-ethas as a vulgar monstrosity of wretched aesthetics and complexity which stands as proof their creators deserve no recognition.
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PostSubject: Re: Demonic Lords   Demonic Lords EmptySun Jun 05, 2022 3:05 am

"Is there a way to keep abreast of current happenings in hell? Are there newspapers or someway to know important events?
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PostSubject: Re: Demonic Lords   Demonic Lords EmptyWed Jul 13, 2022 12:55 am

Demonic Lords under Council rule:

Vozollor
Drizgillez
Brorzan
Xogladoz
Volromiuth
Tillmuun
Vuzrokag
Megthareth
Drurzaran
Brugdranaz

Shifting Demonic Lords - These council ruled demonic lords are formless but can take on various forms.
Hyrixia
Penoria
Mhyrysh
Yseriesh
Lilsha
Ynisvyra
Qiniana
Thelsya
Elrinvielle
Ryryra

tolvannathgir'uxanjoth'tadentralgrudjog'droxogmarrothokugmarithvoggelinarnolath
Insists on being called by his full name and title as shown above. "He" rules over the 2nd plain's 2nd realm of existence known as the flat field which is so notably flat and the same that one can not tell if they are moving. Tolvannathgir has dominion over anything that dies in this realm, though there is essentially nothing there. Tolvann agreed to take total sole reign over this realm in exchange for being accepted into the council's rule.
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PostSubject: Re: Demonic Lords   Demonic Lords EmptyWed Jul 13, 2022 10:53 pm

"So Ankropt' didn't even make the cut.
"Is it a demon, one of the original creatures of They, or is it something else?
"Does the symbol everyone keeps drawing who follows it mean anything? Or is it just a picture?
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PostSubject: Re: Demonic Lords   Demonic Lords EmptyThu Jul 14, 2022 1:13 am

Main Non-Council Demonic Lords:

Has-Mit-Tal (Demonic Lord of Blood, often associated with vampirism, though "he" is more about knowledge and mazes.
Kor-Ma-ca - Worshipped by the Mourn
Beelpheagor-in
"The Leviathan, or The Obelisk"
Ankroptic
...and another one he can't remember.

By "main" Polk means the most active. They are in no way allied together, though none of them are particularly fond of the council.

Ankroptic is generally associated as the Demonic Lord of Rot or Death, or rotting death. It is a demonic lord, though in the world of demonic lords it is considered one of the least intelligent. It is both one single thing and a sort of hive mind of innumerable pieces.
The Ankroptic Symbol is maybe/probably an appropriated bastardized version of the Quadrinity. The Quadrinity, and the Ankroptic symbol are largely meaningless and likely just meant to be symbolic. (Polk has rarely if ever actually seen it.)
The Quadrinity itself is a bit misleading but represents a crossroads of sorts or the coming together of:
The mantras, runes, necromatic, and an abstract concept that does really translate.*

How or why the Council formed Polk does not know. Darconoff made the hells but clearly favored Nosfendtor and sort of just declared him ruler. Having made the hells, and runes, and knowing the most of about them and the mantras, and aligning with Nosfendtor, who was anyone else to argue about it. Nor did any seem to particularly care especially since it seemed to have no impact on them.
It is possible, according to Polk, that the Council formed perhaps as even just a "social club." So they carry influence and power, but it is a less direct "rule."

Part of the issue too is perhaps Darconoff, even for favoring particular demons, fairly equally divided things and set them up as such. There is no doubt Darconoff could likely wipe any of them away but Darconoff is mostly interested in creating things, the mantra powers, and is "pro" demon. (Maybe think "nationalistic") As long as something is a demonic lord, he would not see harm come to it. And he essentially created a system by which the demonic lords can not really wage war or fight each other. (Since there is an infinite amount of space between each of the hell states, no demon can really reach another one.)
But the council meets? Yes. Traversing hell is possible though. To the best of Polks knowledge it is one of Darconoffs most closely guarded secrets, and he allows for the meetings.
Nosfendtor is content to let him work since he benefits from it, and probably deep down sees his position as held aloft by Darconoff.


* It is sort of a "and everything else," but it is more of an everything else that does not fall into one of the trinity, but embraced by the whole. It would also be possible to understand it as "and the They," but They would already be included in the mantras portion of it. It could also be read as "and our understanding" but that is self (human) focused and does not fit the rest of the concept. Polk tends to think of the Quadrinity as someone/something came up with it, put it out there, it isn't accurate, but it stuck around, and that person/thing/entity is likely the only one that knows what they meant but he would tell them if he could that the idea is stupid and a meaningless symbol.
It's a rabbit hole where thinking about it keeps suggesting something more, but doesn't really get you anywhere.
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